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What poker costs: follow the money, not the headline rate

Learn to read a capped fee, an equity cashout and a cash-credit ledger. Worked examples separate the amount paid out from profit and a bonus promise from money actually received.

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  • Check the fee base
  • Count only credited cash
  • Reproduce every step

Hypothetical examples in one consistent monetary unit. These are not CoinPoker tariffs, account observations or advice to play. Study outside a playing session; this is not real-time assistance.

A fee ceiling changes the effective rate

Suppose the pot is 20, the rate is 5% and the fee ceiling is 0.50. The uncapped fee would be 1. The lower of 1 and 0.50 is charged: 0.50. Relative to the pot, that is 2.5%, not 5%.

For this example: fee = min(pot × rate / 100, ceiling). Read the actual rules before using that model: a ceiling may depend on the table or number of players, and additional charges may sit outside it. A headline percentage alone cannot tell you the total cost.

Equity cashout and withdrawal answer different questions

An equity cashout exchanges a share of an unresolved pot for a calculated payout. A withdrawal moves an account balance to an external payment destination. A cashout result does not establish that a withdrawal is available, fee-free or completed.

Here the commission applies to your equity share after rake, not to the entire pot. Use payout = (pot − rake) × equity / 100 × (1 − commission / 100). Equity is an input supplied by you; this tool does not calculate winning chances from cards. Equity is the expected share of the pot, including ties: a certain two-way tie gives 50% equity, not a 50% chance of winning outright. The equity input is a percentage; gross equity (grossEquity) is a monetary amount, pot × equity / 100 before costs.

Two equities, the same pot and commission rate

Assume a pot of 1,000, rake of 50 and a hypothetical 3% commission. Change only equity from 90% to 10%. No intermediate rounding is used.

Two equities, the same pot and commission rate
Calculation90% equity10% equity
Pot after rake950950
Equity share before commission85595
Commission on that share25.652.85
Calculated payout829.3592.15
Gross equity before all costs900100

The 90% case uses the four inputs from the operator's indexed help example; the 10% case is our constructed comparison. At 90% equity the steps are 950 → 855 → 25.65 → 829.35. At 10% they are 950 → 95 → 2.85 → 92.15. Charging 3% of the whole pot would instead be 30, a different calculation. Both 25.65/855 and 2.85/95 equal 3%: the denominators are the equity shares after rake, before commission. A smaller commission amount does not mean a lower rate.

The 90% case starts with gross equity of 900. Its difference from 829.35 is 70.65: 45 from the mathematical effect of rake (50 × 90%) plus 25.65 commission. The 10% case gives 100 − 92.15 = 7.85: 5 plus 2.85. Both 70.65/900 and 7.85/100 equal 7.85%: the denominators are gross equity amounts before rake and commission, so these ratios measure the combined reduction relative to that amount.

That mathematical rake share is not an operator's rakeback attribution. The payout is not profit after your stakes. Without your contributions and full account ledger, neither example measures your financial result.

Net cost is not profit; a bonus promise is not cash

Constructed example, using the same dates and currency throughout: fees attributed to you 100 + cashout commission 12 + other charges 8 − cash actually credited 15 = net cost 105. Fees before credits were 120. The 105 remains a cost, not a gain or a measure of poker winnings. If 100 is merely the total rake from pots, personal fees cannot be inferred by dividing by player count or multiplying by equity. Without a personal fee record, net personal cost is indeterminate.

A promised conditional bonus of 500 is not subtracted: record it separately, like points or an advertised maximum, until actual cash is credited. Never subtract the whole offer from fees. Even a cash credit does not prove that the balance is withdrawable; restrictions and any withdrawal or conversion charges need separate evidence. Avoid counting the same charge twice.

Explore the cashout formula

Hypothetical example loaded: pot 1,000, rake 50, equity 90%, commission 3%. These are not current tariffs.

Use the same monetary unit for pot and rake. Decimal point or comma accepted; no thousands separators. Equity is supplied, not calculated from cards.

Your hypothetical inputs

Payout = (pot − rake) × equity / 100 × (1 − commission / 100). Commission is charged on the equity share after rake.

Calculated amounts

Pot after rake
950
Equity share before commission
855
Cashout commission
25.65
Calculated payout
829.35
Gross equity before costs
900
Mathematical rake effect
45
Commission / pot (%)
2.57

Offline study outside a playing session; no real-time assistance. Pot and rake: 0–1,000,000,000; percentages: 0–100. Display: at most two decimals; a positive amount below 0.01 is shown as < 0.01. No account connection. Excludes your stakes, currency conversion and actual settlement rules; payout is not profit or a completed withdrawal.

Method, source and limits

The operator's EV Cashout help page is a formula reference, not a customer test or independent audit. Its indexed text was readable; the primary source was not verified by a direct HTTPS request. An indexed English or French page does not certify every current tariff or eligibility condition. We certify no current withdrawal terms or feature availability.

All study inputs are hypothetical. Reproduce each downloaded row by subtracting rake, multiplying by equity / 100, then applying commission / 100 to that share. Subtract the commission to get payout. The files retain intermediate amounts for comparison; displayed numbers use the page language and at most two decimal places. Actual settlement rounding may differ.

The dataset combines pots of 100 and 1,000, rake of 0 or 5% of the pot, and equities of 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 90% and 99%. The hypothetical commission stays fixed at 3%; the calculator can vary it separately. It is deterministic arithmetic, not a player sample or evidence of profitability. Currency conversion, side pots, split-pot rules, rewards attribution and your stakes are outside the model. Learning about costs is not a reason to increase play.

CoinPoker: EV Cashout formula reference

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